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A half-bath renovation for $1100 is doable. Happy Fourth everyone take care.Ĭan we please dispense with the 'all the haters' comments? It's really unnecessary. My husband says not to worry about it, that it's taken 35 years to get these deposits and w/ new plumbing, it'll take 35 more and someone will remodel again anyway. Can anyone help clarify this? Any help appreciated before I call both salesmen and get more confusing sales talk. I was considering going that way.supposedly you don't get the slick skin feeling and get rid of the hard deposit problem too. I have not read in any of these postings about this second alternative. The salt one removes the minerals, and the no-salt changes the makeup/arrangement of ions/molecules (?) so that the you don't get the hard build-up of calcium, etc. I am told there are two types of water softeners, those that use salt and those that don't. I am concerned for my new plumbing in the bathrooms and the kitchen I'd like to keep it nice and working and the glass doors to the showers clear. I have real calcium deposits, especially on the tub upstairs. I have kitchen and one bath done with the second underway. I know they have made a lot of improvements since my windows were made in 1989, and I still think they make a good product.ĬONFUSED: As faithful Houzzers know, I'm remodeling here. ![]() Sorry this is such a long message but I thought those of you with older Andersen windows would like to know my experience so far. The contractor was here on Jan 8th so I'm thinking it will be a while before I get any real confirmation from Andersen. I hope that Andersen does indeed replace the glass, but on the chance that they won't, I want to know your opinion, re repair or replacement. Oberon, you probably know how the glass is repaired but for those of you reading this that don't know, I will tell you what I was told: They drill a small hole in the frame releasing the pressure and fill the space with air (not Argon gas as original), then plug the hole and in their words it's "still as good as the best windows on the market," stopping short of saying "as good as before the failure." To my delight this contractor said he would have the glass replaced that if the difference was more than 4 mm Andersen will replace the glass. Andersen then sent out a local contractor to assess the failure. His email also said that it could be repaired (and did not need to be replaced). (Do this by placing something on the outside and your finger on the inside.) To my amazement more than half of our windows and three 36" French doors had almost no space between the glass in the center (3.5 mm on the edge and 14 mm in the center). I rec'd an email from their rep who said the oval condensation was probably an indication of negative pressure and I could tell by measuring the space between the glass at the edge and at the center of the window. I went to Andersen's website to notify them and to my surprise they mention the problem of the oval condensation in the center of the window! Fast forward to a few months ago and I discovered a diffent window had, indeed, failed (cloudiness and smears between the panes). ![]() I thought it was strange but since it wasn't between the glass I thought everything was okay. We installed Andersen 400 series High Performance windows in 1989 and maybe 7-8 yrs later I noticed an oval pattern of condensation on the inside of the glass (not between the panes). I just read your thesis on condensation, and all I can say is - "Wow!" I was told I couldn't get them back.Oberon: This question is for you since you are very knowledgeable about windows. I've explained that I did not have this with my old windows and I wanted them back. ![]() I sent more pictures and at one point the sales person sent me pictures of his windows which are not Pella and do get condensation. I have sent emails and called over twenty times, including calls to the national customer service office. ![]() I sent pictures and it went to the service department. I called the salesman right away, and he asked if it was in between or outside. The second day they were in, the large center window was covered in a foggy condensation. I had heard Pella is the best and they cost around $2000. Two are on the side and a larger in the center. I bought 3 new Pella windows to replace my original windows in the front. Pella has replaced my window, and I thank everyone in the company for their patience and help.
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